From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 29 14:52:57 2001 Date: 29 Jul 2001 14:52:57 -0400 From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0996432777 0000000000 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. From perlman@turing.acm.org Fri Jul 27 12:58:32 2001 -0400 Status: R X-Status: A X-Keywords: Return-Path: Received: from exchange.cs.umn.edu (exchange.cs.umn.edu [128.101.35.126]) by turing.acm.org (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f6RGwVt17920 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:58:32 -0400 Received: by exchange.cs.umn.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:59:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Joseph A. Konstan" To: "'Gary PERLMAN'" Subject: RE: Lewis & Rieman book on the Web Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:59:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for doing this. I had a version converted to HTML for a course I taught, but yours is much better and easier to use. JK -- Joseph A. Konstan Associate Professor of Computer Science & Engineering University of Minnesota konstan@cs.umn.edu -----Original Message----- From: Gary PERLMAN [mailto:perlman@turing.acm.org] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:31 AM To: CHI-EDUCATORS@ACM.ORG Subject: Lewis & Rieman book on the Web Fellow educators, I found a need for a book like Lewis & Rieman's "Task-Centered User Interface Design" which I know many of you use as a supplementary text. I found several versions, some partial, on the Web in HTML, but ended up doing my own conversion, and placed the book on the HCI Bibliography server: http://hcibib.org/tcuid/ I think the conversion makes the material more accessible and being on a free server, meets the copyright conditions in the shareware notice. You should still send the shareware fee to L&R. I asked Lewis & Rieman for feedback on the HTML rendering and hosting, but got no reply, so I hope it's okay with them. I hope you find the presentation of the book useful and USABLE, especially since I used the same design to redo the ACM SIGCHI Curriculum Group Report: http://www.acm.org/sigchi/cdg/ Gary Perlman From perlman@turing.acm.org Mon Jul 16 16:36:50 2001 -0400 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: Return-Path: Received: from localhost (perlman@localhost) by turing.acm.org (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f6GKalm11801; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:36:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:36:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary PERLMAN To: Clayton@cs.colorado.edu cc: jrieman@worldnet.att.net, Gary perlman Subject: Re: Task-Centered UI Design In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII D'oh! I should have searched the web first. So I found: http://home.att.net/~jrieman/jrtcdbk.html which links off to the FTP site with plain text, which is frankly a little crude, these days. But I also found: http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/courseware/cs160/fall99/Book/ http://www.technosphere.net/tcuid/tcuid.htm which are reasonable HTMLizations of the text. Odd HTML conversion: http://www.eat.lth.se/Kurs/Material/Diverse/Lewis_Rieman/Publ_1993b.htm and a partial conversion: http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~saul/hci_topics/tcsd-book/contents.html and mirror sites of text files: http://www.infoiasi.ro/~busaco/teach/docs/user_design/ http://www.cms.dmu.ac.uk/General/docs/hcibook/ So it appears that many people have had this need and idea. I would like to volunteer the hcibib.org location so that it is more likely that others will find it, use it, and not do yet another conversion. The hcibib.org location should have a greater degree of stability, standing, etc. You would retain control over the content and could pull out at any time. Gary On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Gary PERLMAN wrote: > Hi Clayton, > > I am working on some training materials, so I wanted to see if I could > make use of your book with John Rieman. I converted the book to HTML. > http://hcibib.org/tcuid/ > I'd be happy if you made use of it in any way you see fit. > I have not converted everything, but what remains (e.g., Mac screens) > is sort of charming in its present form. > > Is it okay if I disseminate the link in its present form? > > Gary > > From perlman@turing.acm.org Sat Jul 28 20:36:01 2001 -0400 Status: R X-Status: A X-Keywords: Return-Path: Received: from baca.cb.monarch.net (mail.cb.monarch.net [24.244.11.6]) by turing.acm.org (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f6T0a0t03864 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:36:00 -0400 Received: from GroupSaul (groupsaul.monarch.net [24.244.12.30]) by baca.cb.monarch.net (8.10.1/MonarchNET v1.4/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f6T0RWJ40624 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:27:32 -0600 (MDT) From: "Saul Greenberg" To: "'Gary PERLMAN'" Subject: RE: Lewis & Rieman book on the Web Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:33:56 -0600 Message-ID: <000101c117c6$270cfa90$6401a8c0@GroupSaul> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <200107271631.f6RGV6s17533@turing.acm.org> Thanks for formatting this book. I also produced one in html for my students, but yours is nicer so I turfed mine. I am mirroring it on my site as well ... hope that is ok. As usual, great service! Saul -----Original Message----- From: ACM SIGCHI Educators (Open Discussion) [mailto:CHI-EDUCATORS@ACM.ORG] On Behalf Of Gary PERLMAN Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:31 AM To: CHI-EDUCATORS@ACM.ORG Subject: Lewis & Rieman book on the Web Fellow educators, I found a need for a book like Lewis & Rieman's "Task-Centered User Interface Design" which I know many of you use as a supplementary text. I found several versions, some partial, on the Web in HTML, but ended up doing my own conversion, and placed the book on the HCI Bibliography server: http://hcibib.org/tcuid/ I think the conversion makes the material more accessible and being on a free server, meets the copyright conditions in the shareware notice. You should still send the shareware fee to L&R. I asked Lewis & Rieman for feedback on the HTML rendering and hosting, but got no reply, so I hope it's okay with them. I hope you find the presentation of the book useful and USABLE, especially since I used the same design to redo the ACM SIGCHI Curriculum Group Report: http://www.acm.org/sigchi/cdg/ Gary Perlman