From owner-chi-students@ACM.ORG Wed Aug 19 22:28:23 1998 Received: from mail (mail.acm.org [199.222.69.4]) by mail.acm.org (8.8.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id WAA31612; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:25:22 -0400 Received: from ACM.ORG by ACM.ORG (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8c) with spool id 1188959 for CHI-STUDENTS@ACM.ORG; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:25:20 -0400 Received: from mail (mail.acm.org [199.222.69.4]) by mail.acm.org (8.8.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id WAA28008 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:25:19 -0400 Approved-By: wojniak@BOULDERNEWS.INFI.NET Received: from turing.acm.org (turing.acm.org [199.222.69.20]) by mail.acm.org (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA14682; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:46:57 -0400 Received: by turing.acm.org; id AA15143; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:46:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9808181746.AA15143@turing.acm.org> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:46:57 -0400 Reply-To: Gary PERLMAN Sender: "ACM SIGCHI Student Issues and Announcements (Open Discussion)" From: Gary PERLMAN Subject: HCI Bibliography and HCI Education X-To: chi-educators@ACM.ORG To: CHI-STUDENTS@ACM.ORG Status: O Fellow HCI Educators, The HCI Bibliography is a free-access online bibliography on HCI with over 17,000 abstracted entries of publications on HCI. Its home page is at: http://www.hcibib.org/ Soon, a new academic year begins, and I've been hard at work on the HCI Bibliography to bring the content up to date and to provide an adequate search service for the data. Both have been accomplished, largely. The database now has over 17,000 entries, with over 4000 links to online materials (e.g., web pages and full text). The free search service has been getting about 5000 requests per month, although I expect that will increase. To better address the needs of HCI students who will use the HCI Bibliography, I would like input on some issues. Not the Only Place to Look! --------------------------_ The HCI Bibliography is probably the best place to search for work on HCI, but * it is not up to date on all content (and never will be) * it does not (yet) cover materials outside the mainstream and there are probably other reasons. I have a fear that the relative ease of access to materials will make other types of research (e.g., browsing the library stacks) less likely. What can be done to address this possible problem? Not an Easy Place to Look! -------------------------- Practical issues made me set up the HCIBIB search using glimpse, but its language is limited, and always a character away from "human error" with its unusual query language. Additionally, observing the searches that ARE done, researchers typically (1) do not have a plan about how to look for materials and (2) do not adjust their searches effectively based on feedback. Personally, I have limited time to work on solutions, but again, I'd like suggestions about how to address the issue. Perhaps an ideal resource would be a guide to doing research in HCI, which would include research strategies in and out of the HCIBIB and other resources. I wonder if someone could not get funding from SIGCHI to create such a guide. http://www.acm.org/sigchi/documents/devfund.html Since it would be something that could be shared among HCI students, educators, and researchers, it could have a strong positive impact on the field. I do not have time to work on such a guide, but would provide assistance when and where I could. Please feel free to discuss these issues in this list or to send me suggestions. Gary Perlman, director@hcibib.org From perlman Thu Aug 20 12:50:50 1998 Received: by turing.acm.org; id AA06918; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:50:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:50:49 -0400 From: Gary PERLMAN Message-Id: <9808201650.AA06918@turing.acm.org> To: group-chair@acm.org, group-infodir@acm.org Subject: SIGGROUP website and volunteering Cc: perlman Status: O I have most SIGOIS and eventually SIGGROUP materials in the HCIBIB: http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html e.g., CSCW and GROUP lines http://www.hcibib.org/journal.html e.g., TOIS line and I can reformat the materials for inclusion in your pages (e.g., tables of contents with hot links to full abstracts, files with abstracts, etc). I wanted to volunteer using your onsite form, but it's not connected yet, so please pass this on if you are not the right people. Qualifications? Well, I am one of the main website maintainers for the SIGCHI site: http://www.acm.org/sigchi/ the information director for BuckCHI: http://www.acm.org/chapters/buckchi/ I generate the SIGCAPH accessibility link page: http://www.acm.org/sigcaph/ and I run and maintain the HCI Bibliography project: http://www.hcibib.org/ I don't really want to get into any more web work or listserv stuff, and would prefer to just supply conference/journal abstract info in some to-be-determined format, but I could serve as a guru for things like listserv (I noticed that your list headers look remakably like the ones I set up for SIGCHI), server-side includes/CGI on turing, etc. I am willing to gather group-related links into the HCIBIB and to generate link pages like the ones on the SIGCHI site (publications, hci-sites, kids, intercultural). These pages get a lot of hits, so they must be doing something for the HCI community. Gary From kswenson@ms2.com Mon Aug 31 22:24:39 1998 Received: by ms2.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:32:12 -0700 Message-Id: From: Keith Swenson To: perlman@TURING.ACM.ORG, GROUP-EXEC@ACM.ORG Subject: RE: SIGGROUP website and volunteering Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:32:10 -0700 Return-Receipt-To: Keith Swenson Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO Hi Gary, I am quite happy to hear about your interest in the SigGROUP web site. We could certainly use the help, and what you propose would be of value to our members. How would you like to proceed on this? Your HCIBIB is really great by the way, I did not know it existed. Should we design links that push queries into this, or would you expect that we take the results of a fixed set of queries and put them into static pages? Please recommend the approach that makes the most sense to you, because getting this info on our pages would be great. -Keith Swenson kswenson@ms2.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Dirk Mahling [mailto:mahling@lis.pitt.edu] > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 1998 11:49 AM > To: GROUP-EXEC@ACM.ORG > Subject: SIGGROUP website and volunteering > > > Isnt this great! Keith, would you be so kind to respond to Gary? > > > > >Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:50:49 -0400 > >Reply-To: ACM SIGGROUP Chairperson > >Sender: ACM SIGGROUP Chairperson > >From: Gary PERLMAN > >Subject: SIGGROUP website and volunteering > >X-To: group-infodir@ACM.ORG > >X-cc: perlman@ACM.ORG > >To: GROUP-CHAIR@ACM.ORG > > > >I have most SIGOIS and eventually SIGGROUP materials in the HCIBIB: > > http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html e.g., CSCW and GROUP lines > > http://www.hcibib.org/journal.html e.g., TOIS line > >and I can reformat the materials for inclusion in your pages > >(e.g., tables of contents with hot links to full abstracts, > >files with abstracts, etc). > > > >I wanted to volunteer using your onsite form, but it's not > >connected yet, so please pass this on if you are not the > right people. > > > >Qualifications? Well, I am one of the main website maintainers > >for the SIGCHI site: > > http://www.acm.org/sigchi/ > >the information director for BuckCHI: > > http://www.acm.org/chapters/buckchi/ > >I generate the SIGCAPH accessibility link page: > > http://www.acm.org/sigcaph/ > >and I run and maintain the HCI Bibliography project: > > http://www.hcibib.org/ > > > >I don't really want to get into any more web work or listserv > >stuff, and would prefer to just supply conference/journal > >abstract info in some to-be-determined format, but I could > >serve as a guru for things like listserv (I noticed that > >your list headers look remakably like the ones I set up > >for SIGCHI), server-side includes/CGI on turing, etc. > > > >I am willing to gather group-related links into the HCIBIB > >and to generate link pages like the ones on the SIGCHI site > >(publications, hci-sites, kids, intercultural). These pages > >get a lot of hits, so they must be doing something for the > >HCI community. > > > >Gary > > > From perlman Mon Aug 31 23:01:13 1998 Received: by turing.acm.org; id AA23968; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:01:09 -0400 From: Gary PERLMAN Message-Id: <9809010301.AA23968@turing.acm.org> Subject: Re: SIGGROUP website and volunteering To: kswenson@ms2.com (Keith Swenson) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: perlman In-Reply-To: from "Keith Swenson" at Aug 31, 98 07:32:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 6257 Status: O The results from the queries is the easiest, and you can just copy the links (which generate queries) from the conference coverage table: http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html I think that's a start. Call it phase 1. Here are the links:
  • GROUP'97: Supporting Group Work
  • CSCW'96: Computer-Supported Cooperative Work *
  • COCS'95: Organizational Computings Systems
  • CSCW'94: Computer-Supported Cooperative Work *
  • COCS'93: Organizational Computings Systems *
  • CSCW'92: Computer-Supported Cooperative Work *
  • COCS'91: Organizational Computings Systems *
  • CSCW'90: Computer-Supported Cooperative Work
  • OIS'90: Office Information Systems
  • CSCW'88: Computer-Supported Cooperative Work
* = includes links to full text in ACM Digital Library There, phase 1 is complete. Note that GROUP'97 and COCS'95 have not been scanned into the ACM DL. COCS'95 is out of print, too, so I used the ACM CRCS keywords. Also, by the way, there are lots of errors in the ACM DL, but they are updating their files, or will soon -- Bernie Rous has been on vacation the second half of this month. Papers are missing from contents, links are missing, etc. I've send ACM about 200 corrections to make in about 11 conference series. Still, it's great to have access to the scans. The results of the queries are not tuned to any particular needs, so I'd like to create static pages from the online entries. Another reason is that the result of a query on a conference is static, so creating dynamic queries makes users wait longer (I don't care much about the machine cycles). Each page would be of a conference: general info about the conference general table of contents (session titles) these would link to sections on the same page sections with paper titles, authors, pages, link to ACM DL something here would link to the abstracted paper, or perhaps link into the HCIBIB with the paper's unique ID I've had variations of this set up but have not had the time or the motivation to do it. I am now finding the time, and SIGGROUP would give me the motivation. Of course, it would apply well to any conference series. This would be phase 2. Or, you could just stick with phase 1, which is pretty much completed above. As for working into the GROUP pages, I prefer to avoid special tools such as the Netscape one mentioned on the site. Perhaps the idea way is to figure out what you want and where you want it, and I can create files to be included (with server-side includes) into the GROUP pages. Gary > Hi Gary, > > I am quite happy to hear about your interest in the SigGROUP web site. > We could certainly use the help, and what you propose would be of value > to our members. > > How would you like to proceed on this? Your HCIBIB is really great by > the way, I did not know it existed. Should we design links that push > queries into this, or would you expect that we take the results of a > fixed set of queries and put them into static pages? Please recommend > the approach that makes the most sense to you, because getting this info > on our pages would be great. > > -Keith Swenson > kswenson@ms2.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dirk Mahling [mailto:mahling@lis.pitt.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 1998 11:49 AM > > To: GROUP-EXEC@ACM.ORG > > Subject: SIGGROUP website and volunteering > > > > > > Isnt this great! Keith, would you be so kind to respond to Gary? > > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:50:49 -0400 > > >Reply-To: ACM SIGGROUP Chairperson > > >Sender: ACM SIGGROUP Chairperson > > >From: Gary PERLMAN > > >Subject: SIGGROUP website and volunteering > > >X-To: group-infodir@ACM.ORG > > >X-cc: perlman@ACM.ORG > > >To: GROUP-CHAIR@ACM.ORG > > > > > >I have most SIGOIS and eventually SIGGROUP materials in the HCIBIB: > > > http://www.hcibib.org/confer.html e.g., CSCW and GROUP lines > > > http://www.hcibib.org/journal.html e.g., TOIS line > > >and I can reformat the materials for inclusion in your pages > > >(e.g., tables of contents with hot links to full abstracts, > > >files with abstracts, etc). > > > > > >I wanted to volunteer using your onsite form, but it's not > > >connected yet, so please pass this on if you are not the > > right people. > > > > > >Qualifications? Well, I am one of the main website maintainers > > >for the SIGCHI site: > > > http://www.acm.org/sigchi/ > > >the information director for BuckCHI: > > > http://www.acm.org/chapters/buckchi/ > > >I generate the SIGCAPH accessibility link page: > > > http://www.acm.org/sigcaph/ > > >and I run and maintain the HCI Bibliography project: > > > http://www.hcibib.org/ > > > > > >I don't really want to get into any more web work or listserv > > >stuff, and would prefer to just supply conference/journal > > >abstract info in some to-be-determined format, but I could > > >serve as a guru for things like listserv (I noticed that > > >your list headers look remakably like the ones I set up > > >for SIGCHI), server-side includes/CGI on turing, etc. > > > > > >I am willing to gather group-related links into the HCIBIB > > >and to generate link pages like the ones on the SIGCHI site > > >(publications, hci-sites, kids, intercultural). These pages > > >get a lot of hits, so they must be doing something for the > > >HCI community. > > > > > >Gary > > > > > >